Posts by days of future passed

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Universal Sovereignty

by incognito2014 in

i always thought this was nonsense, just an excuse for why there’s suffering.. but just assuming there really is this very long period of human history to allow god to prove his sovereignty.

this issue that affects every being not just on the planet but in the universe .

it’s a big deal and one that is so important that billions of people have had to suffer for 6,000 years.. .

How funny. This was what I was talking about with my sister this afternoon. What really in in the bible that says God has to wait for mankind to try every different government before he brings Armageddon? I brought up this subject to her because of a program I watched on forensic archaeology. A woman was found buried on her side, a baby by her shoulder, one between her legs and one by her feet. The wrap up of the show was that the woman had been carrying triplets at around age 30. It is very common that one of the babies will be in the breach position as it tries to exit the body which effectively blocks it from being born. The woman had given birth to one child, (the one by her shoulder) but was unable to birth the other two because of a breached baby. So she died, the baby that was delivered died (because there wasn't milk for it). The other two were expelled from the body after she was buried because of the decomposing process that produces a lot of gas. So they were found between her legs.

It's just a small sample of the suffering that all people have gone thru since "God" expelled mankind from the garden. What kind of person feels justified in putting, not the offenders, but their offspring, thru this torture? Witnesses don't think of things that way - I didn't - they are just taught to make excuses for God.

Universal Sovereignty - just another way the marketing department, spins an excuse for "God" doing nothing.

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Need help. Daughter wants to leave org but does not know how.

by Indian Larry in

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long question, but very important.. i can use some help.

my daughter wants out of the organization and i need some advise.. here is my background in a nutshell.

i am fully faded for 10+ years.

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It is a difficult task indeed to leave and for some it is harder depending on your personality and family circumstances.

A therapist, even if they don't have the answers are at least a listening ear. She doesn't have to worry about them running to the elders or other family members. Sometimes a change of place helps. A vacation with a friendly non witness family member or maybe a road trip with you. Something outside the bubble of the small world of the JW lifestyle. Everyone needs a break.

And there are many different types of people here with backgrounds in the JW world that has left scars and loss of family. So of course they speak from a certain perspective. You don't have to take their advice or take things personally. I myself struggle with those kind of issues. But this place has many positive things to find in the people and their experiences.

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May 2019 Study Article in the Watchtower

by Lost in the fog in

here is paragraph 18 of the study article.

made to the congregation.

(1 cor.

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Why wouldn't they take the opportunity to return to a house with only underage children in it? If the child seems easily impressed, they might just keep in contact with them, building a relationship.

Opportunists are everywhere.

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Is JW.Org the true religion?

by Maria Nieves in

jw.org states that they are the true religion.

i was told that it is written in the bible that jw.org is the true religion.

the following is the "alleged" evidence that was presented to me:.

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Their actions show that they cannot be the "true" religion. They allow pedophiles to remain in the congregations without anyone knowing but them. Which means the parents can't protect their children. They don't call the police to investigate when a child is abused. There are many other things that prove they aren't what they claim to be.

Anyone can pick a name out of a scripture and say it is them.

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March broadcast - Tightpants Tony wants to be filmed in action

by sir82 in

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did anyone else notice this?.

tony tightpants has the "morning worship" featurette in the march jw broadcast.. he appears to be hoping that someone will be videotaping the slaughter of 7 billion men, women, and children at armageddon.. quote is something like "we have some really good videographers here at bethel, but i don't think even they could capture what will happen.

still, all things are possible with god..." (not exact, but that is the gist).. and of course morris imagines himself as one of the "anointed", who will be the ones, per wt doctrine, to conduct the slaughter.. it takes a special kind of hubris, arrogance, and sadism to wish that you yourself could be filmed in the act of slaughtering billions of people.. i've encountered a lot of jws with "dark souls", but based on his public comments, i'd say morris has teh blackest one i've seen.. if he says stuff like this for broadcast to 8 million + jws, what does he say in private?

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You know, someone should give him his wish. Show women, children and babies being "gloriously" killed. The reality of what would actually happen. Children on their way to school, killed. A woman with a baby, just after bathing it. Two nice old people sharing a cup of tea. People standing in line at the supermarket. At a hospital. Witnesses just as they leave their house and wave at their neighbor, see the angels slaughter them.

I'm sure most witnesses don't contemplate what it really entails. It would be shocking.

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Awake No. 2 2019 - Way To Destroy Your Childrens Hopes And Dreams Watchtower!

by pale.emperor in

not that i spend much time on the cult's website, but i like to skim through their latest propaganda to make sure i'm up to date with their nuttiness.

(and when i say skim, i mean just that.

the wafer thin, dumbed down content can be read in like 2 mins flat).. i just had to share my thoughts on the above piece of trash.. no.

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This certainly worked on me! I was a humble doormat that doubted anything I did was good. I remember an "example" given from the podium - an elder who, when he thought he was better than others, would say to himself "you're nothing more than a speck of dust" And that is what they want you to dwell on.

Yes, instill a feeling of inferiority to your children so they can be manipulated every time they go to the hall.

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One Liners

by The Fall Guy in

my doctor says that i need to have an operation to fuse the bones in my neck.

he said that after it's done i'll never look back!.

alcohol was my father's answer to everything.

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Sandwich walks into a bar. Sorry says the bartender, we don't serve lunch.

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Helping your Spouse wake up

by HappyBlessedFree in

has anyone had success in helping your spouse to wake up?

i’m thinking of showing my husband jwfacts.

he is starting to do his own research using wikipedia and google.

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When my sister and her husband realized that it couldn't be the truth, my sister did the rapid fire of information on me. I wasn't phased by that, but told her that she was doing too much. At that point, it wasn't that I thought the WT was wrong, but I was willing to look at what she saying because even if what she was telling me was wrong, I was going to wade thru it and examine it.

But what was in my favor was previous information - the dateline show from like 20 years ago about pedophiles in the congregation and the organizations ways of dealing with it.

I also had my lying and manipulative sister I was living with, as an example of the two faced hypocritical JW. I thought to myself, if my sister who I've treated so well all of these years can betray me, why not an organization?

So I examined the bible against the teachings of the WT. It was then that I knew that they did not follow the bible. They also knew that too. So they were hypocrites and liars.

For my sister, it was about the numbers. The 607 controversy, the "finished mysteries" explanation of how they came to that date.... added to it was her husbands eye opening first hand dealings with the organization and their protection of a pedophile.

So understanding and knowing what your husband may have had issues in the past with as well as what would concern him the most, can help you.

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JW.ORG at the grocery store.

by Queequeg in

today while i was having my groceries checked out, a lovely woman came up next to me in the line.. i glanced over at her... her face screamed "i'm a pain in the ass!

" she was obese and frumpy, and (i know maybe i'm projecting a little too much here...) she seemed to exude a sense of superiority, like, "i'm too good to be around these losers.".

i paid for my food and made a point of being especially nice to the checker because i figured her next person was going to be unpleasant.. as i was gathering my things, the checker asked this lovely woman, "is plastic ok?

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The other side of it may have been a lady who was encouraged to wear the lapel and her best defense was to be extra extra. Like when they wanted us to wear our badges from the assembly when you went to dinner. Awkward. I smiled like a fool. Self conscious and trying to look like a good JW - cause I felt like everyone was looking at me.

Have yet to see it in person. Actually hope never to see it.

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The UK government SANCTIONS this?

by The Fall Guy in

youngs kids can go behind their parents' and guardians' backs - and against their wishes - and get this vaccine!.

aren't children so lucky nowadays to be able to dismiss their parents' authority and guidance!

remember the puppies in george orwell's animal farm?

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Remember the puppies in George Orwell's Animal Farm? Sheesh!

What about the puppies? In the story, they were taken from their mom and raised to be vicious by the pigs. Who then used them to keep the other animals in line or even kill them.

Are you saying, that if they get vaccinations they will become vicious, turn on their parents or ??? If you ever saw what small pox did to people and how many it killed - would you be one of the one's refusing to take the vaccination? At least these children might be spared a deadly disease.